6 October 2025

The Externalisation of Migration

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In this episode, Flora Bensadon and Irem Cakmak are joined by Zoe Bantleman, Dr Kris van der Pas and Dr Annick Pijnenburg to discuss the externalisation of migration. What is meant by the externalisation of migration? What legal, political and moral considerations does it raise? And to what extent may contemporary externalisation efforts be seen as a wider pushback against international law?

Note: From 20:10 Dr Van der Pas discusses the upcoming changes to the connection requirement in EU law and from 30:18 Dr Pijnenburg briefly discusses the Italy-Albania deal and litigation and again the connection requirement. There have been some developments since the podcast was recorded: The European Commission published its proposal to change the connection requirement and the Court of Justice of the EU ruled on a preliminary question that affects the Italy-Albania deal. 

 

Speakers

Zoe Bantleman – Barrister, Legal Director of the Immigration Law Practitioners’ Association (ILPA), and DPHil Migration Studies Student, University of Oxford  

Dr Kris van der Pas – Postdoctoral Researcher, Tilburg University

Dr Annick Pijnenburg – Assistant Professor, International and European Law, Radboud University

 

Hosts

Flora Bensadon – Intern, TMC Asser Institute

Irem Cakmak – Intern, TMC Asser Institute